Re: Students/techniques

• To: info-dylan@ai.mit.edu
• Subject: Re: Students/techniques
• From: ejr@lotus.cs.berkeley.edu (Edward Jason Riedy)
• Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 18:30:02 -0400 (EDT)
• Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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And dauclair@hotmail.com writes:
 - 
 - > Does anyone have experience with less experienced programmers?  C++
 - > hackers already know how to battle with a complex language...
 - 
 - In most my classes that I teach, I often get a student who is very much
 - less experienced than the rest.  

I agree completely.  My point was more towards the differences between
learning Dylan as an additional language v. learning it as a first (or
early) language.  I've found people have much different issues depending
on what baggage they already have.  For someone else's cute example, see 
the wonderful Perl-for-COBOLers story under www.perl.com...

The baggage loads I'd expect from semi-seasoned C++ programmers ares 1) 
don't trust the compiler, and 2) objects are packages of stuff (contain
methods, too).  I'm fishing for examples that the Dylan / CLOS-style 
object systems are still accessible to those people.  I'm also fishing
for any actual evidence that they're more accessible to beginners.

Jason

• Re: Students/techniques
• From: Hugh Greene <q@tardis.ed.ac.uk>

• Results: finished teaching one Dylan course
• From: dauclair@hotmail.com
• Re: Results: finished teaching one Dylan course
• From: ejr@lotus.cs.berkeley.edu (Edward Jason Riedy)
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