Re: Lisp - First Impressions

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Subject: Re: Lisp - First Impressions
From: "Carl L. Gay" <sigue@thecia.net>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 21:15:03 -0400 (EDT)
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"e 4 5 5 @ y a h o o . c o m" wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 23:25:03 GMT, "Scott McKay" <swm@mediaone.net> wrote:
> 
> >I think the LispWorks environment basically sucks, although the
> >interactivity support in it is as good as in any other Lisp environment.
> >I think the Functional Dylan environment (nee Harlequin Dylan) is
> >probably one of the really good environments you can find for
> >any programming language.  The code produced by both LispWorks
> >and by Functional Dylan is really pretty damned good.
> 
> An example would be very helpful, of one of the ways LispWorks sucks, and/or
> one of the ways Functional beats it.

I'm not very familiar with LispWorks, but one of the things that
FunDev does a lot better than MCL is stepping through source
code a line at a time.  The support for this in Harlequin Dylan 1.x
had some problems but it's quite good in FunDev 2.0.

> Does Functional Objects have a lot of good programmers working full time on
> Functional Developer?  Or is it more a matter of having inherited it from
> Harlequin and having a few programmers continue to maintain it?

They are doing more than just maintaining it.  They've already
done a lot of work on porting to other platforms.  Lots of bugs
have been fixed too, notably in DUIM.

> To get started with it, is the free version enough, or is it better to spend
> the money to get the various extras?

You can download the full version for a 30 day trial period if
you just want to evaluate it.

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