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Re: New Lisp ?
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To: info-dylan@ai.mit.edu
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Subject: Re: New Lisp ?
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From: israel r t <israelrt@antispam.optushome.com.au>
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Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 00:45:02 -0500 (EST)
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Organization: help ! I am being held prisoner by radical leather preschool terrorists !
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 17:14:40 +1300, Bruce Hoult <bruce@hoult.org>
wrote:
>> Dylan will almost certainly never break into the mainstream without a
>> big promoter. The opportunity was largely lost when Apple dropped it.
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>That was a sad day, yes. And it's taking a while to recover from. The
>good news is that 1) the implementations are getting there, and 2) most
>mainstream people have never even heard of it, so when we're ready it'll
>be "new" to them, not recycled.
Dylan's biggest liability is its name ( named after an elderly
has-been 1960's rocker that only my parents would have been seen dead
listening to ) and the perception that it was "dropped by Apple".
Perhaps renaming it and changing its Pascal like syntax either towards
Scheme or towards C might get some disillusioned Schemers , lispers
or even some apostates from Java and C#....
As for names Skylan / Skylark for the Schemefied version or Cyclan for
the C syntax version (I was a EC Tubbs fan...) Or if you want a
musical name, Bach or Fugue would be nice ( Mozart is already taken by
the Oz/Mozart language )
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