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   Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:24:02 -0500
   From: Scott McKay <swm@hotdispatch.com>
   think the fact that many of us think it's reasonable to hobble ourselves
   should be a source of embarrassment to all of us.  (FWIW, emacs
   + javac/java is what I'm pretty much reduced to when hacking Java,
   so my finger points at me, too.)

Hey, maybe people whose job is to create IDE's should be embarrassed, but,
as they say these days, don't blame the victims.

-- Dan (doing Java development with Gnu Emacs and jikes and some
little makefiles and some little perl scripts and souce control
scripts built out of ObjectStore plus ClearCase and a homegrown bug