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Re: syntax trouble (was Re: bindings and assignments)




       I agree, but another thing that may be slithering around the subconcious of a skeptic, and one I think is not without merit, is the idea that beyond a certain point verbosity obscures rather than clarifies.  Not to say that this is a completely empirical at decision time -- the verbosity of a particular language under consideration might be beneficial, but this may be what they are thinking.


Peter J. Wasilko, Esq. wrote:
       I think it's simply if you're going to work in a language the 
thought of all those millions of (supposedly) extra keystrokes you'll 
have to type over time (COBOL, anyone?).  Of course the prospective 
programmer's thought doesn't take into account the idea that your 
programs might actually be shorter overall... :-)
    


People also seem to forget that modern editing environments can do
things like suggesting auto-completions of long strings and provide
structure editors as an alternative to programmer entered parentheses
like the Tile-based metaphor used by Alice2 to control 3-d animations.
Not to mention the comprehensibility benefits of a verbose but powerful
abstraction that can sufficiently shorten overall code to pay for its
extra local keystrokes.

Basing judgments of language viability on the ease of code entry with an
unadorned text editor is sadly shortsighted. Redundance can be a good
things, just think of how many Perl and C typos's would be eliminated if
their syntax were more verbose and minor misskeyings were less likely to
yield syntactically valid code.

-- Peter



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