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Re: The Lambda Nature
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To: info-dylan@ai.mit.edu
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Subject: Re: The Lambda Nature
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From: brucehoult@pobox.com (Bruce Hoult)
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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 04:30:45 -0400 (EDT)
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Organization: The Internet Group Ltd
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References: <66t696q5.fsf@lambda.unlambda.com> <HmAFOfTAOnak6jtktaUBNrCWV0fD@4ax.com> <ya61799l.fsf_-_@lambda.unlambda.com> <qij3do88cbr.fsf_-_@ernie.ai.mit.edu> <Ys5O4.1295$F.37918@news4.giganews.com> <ln1yfskr.fsf@lambda.unlambda.com> <390A5F1B.4B7627CD@mastnet.net> <slrn8gkohv.8c5.cbbrowne@knuth.brownes.org> <390A6B11.2C543E14@mastnet.net> <8ee7ub$asc$1@news.huji.ac.il> <390AF3EA.3B98DCE1@mastnet.net> <ln1wds3v.fsf_-_@lambda.unlambda.com>
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Xref: traf.lcs.mit.edu comp.lang.scheme:29609 comp.lang.lisp:52066 comp.lang.dylan:11930
In article <ln1wds3v.fsf_-_@lambda.unlambda.com>, james@fredbox.com (James
A. Crippen) wrote:
> Spending time immersed in the Scheme language (and related Lispish and
> functional languages) and in historical documents of the AI lab
> cultures will invariably assist you in understanding not only the
> superficial culture of the hackish crowd, its lore, and history, but
> also will aid you in understanding the underlying ideas and motives
> that produced such languages as Scheme. Probably one of the simpler
> windows into the culture is a dated but still relevant paper by
> Richard Gabriel,
> http://www.ai.mit.edu/docs/articles//good-news/good-news.html
> . This is a somewhat non-technical, short paper describing why the
> Lisp community as of ten years ago failed to succeed as well as it
> could have in the face of microcomputers, Unix, and poorly educated C
> hackers. It's well worth the read, and RPG not only defends his
> thesis well but brings up many sensitive topics rarely broached
> amongst the Lisp hacker community.
I read this paper some years ago, but just now re-read it.
My questions for the assembled masses is:
- where are we now, ten years later?
- What is this "next LISP" of which he speaks? (in
<http://www.ai.mit.edu/docs/articles/good-news/subsection3.3.6.html>
-- Bruce
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