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Re: Good book on Dylan?



In article <7Xpx6.3458$Ph.147637@stones>, "Mark Jordan" 
<mark_jordan@nospam.ieee.org> wrote:

> None yet, I like to have a vague clue as to what I'm doing
> before I do it.  Man, I can't get over how quiet it is around
> here! Bit like good old NZ eh :-)

It tends to be pretty quiet here in the newsgroup, but there's actually 
quite a lot of activity going on in the Gwydion Dylan (the open source 
implementation which compiles via C) developer mailing list.  I'd say
it averages around half a dozen messages per day, the majority of which 
is people discussing improvements being made to the compiler.

I was at a talk a couple of years ago where the speaker put forward the 
theory that a big factor in Linux being more sucessful than the xBSDs 
was that Linux development took place in newsgroups and a casual 
observer could easily find them and immediately see that there was stuff 
going on.  OTOH, it was hard to find out that FreeBSD existed, and it 
looked as if there was nothing going on because all the activity was in 
private mailing lists.


> It's no wonder that it's so quiet around here, nobody even knows that
> Dylan exists! I'm beginning to wonder if there's some fatal flaw I haven't
> spotted yet...

Java arrived and got $$ behind it at *exactly* the point that Dylan was 
nearly ready to take off, at least in the Mac community.  And then Apple 
had money problems...

By all rights Dylan should be as dead now as, say, OpenDoc.  The fact 
that it *isn't* yet dead I think says something about its inherent 
worth.  There's a bit of a holding action at Fun-O but the Gwydion 
developers are moving ahead fairly nicely and using Dylan for real work, 
and it's encouranging to see several universities starting to teach 
Dylan to undergrads in the past year or so.

-- Bruce



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