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Re: Y Store now C++
Sundar Narasimhan wrote:
>>Java was hardly the only language to provide important benefits over C/C++,
Most of the languages we discuss on this list.
>People need to make cashflow and payroll this month! What other
>languages were true contenders circa that time frame? (Remember: we
>already had/have production apps in Lisp -- so I'm looking for what
>were "new" solutions at that point in time frame that I might have
Why, at any given time, was anyone constrained to only use a "new" language?
>BTW, I just don't buy the "Java ran/rode with the WWW/Netscape
>coat-tail" argument at all -- this is one of those "press generated
It is what I observed myself.
> Coat-tails have a way of disappearing,
Yup. This one has disappeared long ago. It only has to last long enough
the snowball rolling. After that the snowball rolls by itself.
>languages do fall out of favor.. remember AI and Lisp?
AI never got the snowball rolling for Lisp. AI was teensy in comparison
Internet/WWW phenomenon. And Sun gave Java a huge push and many other
companies joined the bandwagon. Of course it helped that Java had a more
syntax and stuff like that.
> Let me
>tell you - my empirical evidence proves otherwise
Well, you and I have evidently come to different conclusions.
>Sure, programmers are sometimes (mis)led this way or that by hype
>etc., but Dan -- you say PSE Pro (or was it the later Excelon XML
>stuff) was written in Java -- why did your company make that decision?
>Because of the hype wrt. applets/www/netscape?
Here's what happened. People at Sun approached us and said that they
in making something called the "Java Wallet". This would be a software
module that would
be downloaded into the browser as an applet. It would remember your
credit card numbers and
stuff like that, so that when you wanted to do e-commerce, all that
information would be available.
So they needed a small-footprint transactional Java database for which
very high performance
was not necessary. We thought that seemed reasonable. We didn't want to
make a product
just for one customer (Sun). But by that time Java was starting to catch
on as a general language
(for reasons that you and I differ on), so we thought there might be a
broader market for such
a small-footprint Java data store. So, our decision was partly based on
client-side Java and
partly based on the prevalence of Java and our guess (correct, as it
turns out) that Java would
be a widely-used language.