Epson 3800: Printer FAQThis page is maintained by Eric ChanLast updated: November 8, 2009 The purpose of this page is to help photographers who are considering purchasing the Epson 3800 and also to help existing 3800 users get the most from this printer. If you have tips to contribute or have questions not covered here, please let me know.
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Update History
October 8, 2007. Several updates (see below) including questions about a potential upgrade (3880?), centering with UltraSmooth Fine Art, Paper Thickness driver settings, the shelf life of the K3 inks, Vivid Magenta compatibility, 8-bit vs. 16-bit printing, rendering intent choices, and some maintenance/troubleshooting questions. April 21, 2007. Robert Koopmans contributed another idea for avoiding head strikes. The idea is to use an extra 2 inches of paper than you actually need for the print. This trick is particularly handy when cutting sheets from a roll. See additional details in the FAQ here. Thanks Robert. April 14, 2007. Network problem workaround found! Many users have been having trouble getting status information (ink levels, etc.) when printing on their 3800 printers using the network. They can print fine, but there is no status feedback. James Kay has found a workaround: install the Epson 2200 print driver and status monitor! Sounds a bit odd, maybe, but it seems to work! For details, see this question and its updated answer in the FAQ. Thanks James -- nice job! March 17, 2007. New entries and updates:
March 11, 2007. New entries:
March 8, 2007.
March 7, 2007. Red River Paper will custom cut any of their papers. This is another way to get 17" x 25" cut sheets. Thanks to Bill Mathews for the tip.
Questions by Category
General Information
Media Handling and Margins
Inks
Print Quality
Papers, Profiles, and Calibration
Maintenance and Troubleshooting
General Information
When was the Epson 3800 announced?Late September 2006, just before Photokina. It began shipping around November 2006.
Where can I find the Epson 3800 brochure and reference guide?Download the brochure (PDF, 6 pages)Download the reference guide (PDF, 41 pages)
Where can I find reviews, forums, and other articles about the Epson 3800?Articles:
Is it easy to set up the Epson 3800?Yes. The included Quick Start guide has easy-to-follow instructions and clear diagrams. My main suggestion is to make sure that you find and remove all of the strips of blue packaging tape on the printer. There are at least 45 pieces (I lost count after that).I am currently writing a setup tutorial, but it's not ready yet. In the meantime, you can see these setup notes by Giorgio Trucco and also these notes by Vincent Olivier.
How big is the Epson 3800? Is it heavy?When the covers are closed, the 3800 is 10.28 inches (257 mm) tall, 27.36 inches (684 mm) wide, and 14.88 inches (376 mm) deep.When all of the covers are fully open and extended, the 3800 is 22.8 inches (579 mm) tall, 27.36 inches (684 mm) wide, and 37.87 inches (962 mm) deep. The 3800 weighs 43.2 lbs (19.6 kg) with all cartridges installed. The user guide recommends that two people work together to lift and move the printer, but a strong person with a healthy back should be able to manage alone.
How much does the Epson 3800 cost?That depends on where you buy it from. Pricing varies by dealer as well as by country. As of October 2007, most dealers in the US are selling the regular version for $1295 and the Professional Edition for $1495. If you shop around, however, you can find reputable dealers selling the 3800 for less and/or offering other incentives, such as free shipping. If you find an unrecognized dealer offering a suspiciously low price, however, it's a good idea to check Reseller Ratings -- just in case.
What are the Media Special, Portrait Edition, and Professional Edition?Same printer, different packages.The Media Special comes with the TUMI Printer Cover and 25 sheets of 17" x 22" Epson Ultra Premium Luster paper. The Portrait Edition comes with the ExpressDigital Darkroom Core Edition software. The Professional Edition comes with the ColorBurst RIP software. Many prospective users wonder whether they should get the regular version or the Professional Edition with the ColorBurst RIP. The ColorBurst RIP is useful primarily for printing PostScript images. If you are only interested in printing standard color or black-and-white photographs (e.g., from Photoshop or another application), then you do not need the ColorBurst RIP. Note that the ColorBurst RIP is not the same as ColorByte Software's ImagePrint RIP. It is easy to confuse the names ColorBurst and ColorByte, but they represent different companies with different products.
How does the Epson 3800 compare to the Epson R2400?The two printers share the same ink set (Epson UltraChrome K3 inks) and therefore have similar print quality. The primary differences are:
How does the Epson 3800 compare to other 17" printers such as the Epson 4800 and Canon iPF5000?See this comparison table at the excellent Canon iPF5000 wiki, created and maintained by John Hollenberg. There are other comparison tables posted on the web, but this is the most accurate, complete, and frankly unbiased one I've seen.Here is my summary of the comparison between these three printers:
My personal view of the 3800 is that I recommend it for people who want great output on an easy-going, low-volume schedule. The printer is very easy to set up and use. If you regularly handle massive print jobs or require unattended printing for thick matte papers, you're much better off going with one of the other two printers, which offer roll paper support.
Is nozzle clogging an issue with the Epson 3800?Reports seem to indicate that most users have experienced few to no clogs so far, even if they haven't used the printer for a while (several days or even a couple of weeks). However, please keep the following notes in mind.
Also, see this question on tips for avoiding clogs.
How long does it take to power on and power off the Epson 3800?When the 3800 is off and you press the Power button, the 3800 turns on immediately but it takes about 40 seconds for the Ready status message to appear.When the 3800 is on and you press the Power button, the 3800 turns off in under 10 seconds.
What are the Epson 3800's connectivity options?USB 2.0 and 10/100-BaseT Ethernet.
What are the available Color Modes for the Epson 3800?In the printer driver settings you can choose from the following three Color Modes: Color, Advanced B&W Photo, and Black.Color is for printing standard color photographs (though you can print black and white images this way, too). Advanced B&W Photo (ABW) is a special driver mode optimized for printing black and white images. See here for a discussion of the pros and cons of the ABW mode. Black is for printing text only (e.g., if you're printing a text file). Don't use it for printing your images.
Is the Epson 3800 supported under Windows Vista?Yes, Epson does have Vista drivers available for the 3800 (see the Epson Support web site) but some users are running into significant issues. One problem is that when the print progress gets to about 96%, the printer ejects the unfinished print -- not good! Even Epson Support acknowledges that Epson is having difficulties with the Vista drivers at the moment. Consequently, it's probably wise to wait for a driver update before trying your 3800 on Vista.If you're trying to use your 3800 on the network under Vista, some users recommend setting up the 3800 using the updated 1.6a version of the EpsonNet Config Utility (downloadable from the Epson Support site) instead of the older 1.4 version that ships with the printer. This advice is coming from users who have used version 1.6a to set up their 3800 successfully on the network under Vista -- with bidirectional communication working, complete prints, and no known issues. (Note: other users report no problems at all with their 3800 under Vista. I still recommend waiting for a driver update.)
Is the Epson 3800 printer a good choice for black and white printing?Yes, the 3800 produces excellent black and white prints in both color (RGB) mode and especially through its special Advanced B&W Photo (ABW) mode.See here for more details on how to set up the ABW driver and printing B&W images.
Is the Epson 3800 a "serious" printer? Can it be used for professional work?The 3800 is certainly capable of producing exhibition-quality prints. In fact, Pete Turner recently had a retrospective exhibit at the George Eastman House International Museum of Photography and Film; all of the images in this exhibit were printed with a 3800 on Premium Luster.However, the 3800 may not be the ideal printer for volume work, for three reasons. First, large print jobs and unattended print jobs are much easier to handle using roll paper, but the 3800 lacks roll paper support. Second, even though the 3800's 80 mL cartridge size is respectable, for large print jobs it is better to use larger cartridges. The Epson 4800, for example, can take either 110 mL or 220 mL cartridges, and the Canon iPF5000 takes 130 mL cartridges (both also have roll paper support). Third, the 3800 takes time to swap between PK and MK inks (2 to 3 minutes), even though the swap is handled automatically. If you need to print in a busy environment using lots of different papers (including both PK and MK papers), then it may better to choose a printer that doesn't require an extra swapping step.
When will the Epson 3800 be upgraded? Will there be an Epson 3880?Yes: Epson announced the Epson Stylus Pro 3880 on September 1, 2009.
I see rebates / incentives available. Does this mean Epson is going to replace the 3800 soon?There have been rebates/incentives on the 3800 going as far back as mid-2007. Since these rebates/incentives have been going on for more than 2 years, I do not think there is much connection between the rebates/incentives and an impending update. It is clear that a successor will appear some day. As of May 2009 no official announcement has been made.
Media Handling and Margins
Does the Epson 3800 support roll paper?No. The 3800 supports only cut sheet paper. If you need roll paper support, consider the Epson R2400, Epson 4800, or Canon iPF5000 instead.
What paper feed mechanisms does the Epson 3800 have?There are three paper feeds for cut sheet paper: the Auto Sheet Feed, the Rear Feed, and the Front Feed. The Auto Sheet Feed is fed from the top and can hold multiple sheets. It is best suited to thin and normal photo papers (e.g., Epson Premium Luster) and matte papers (e.g., Epson Enhanced Matte). The Rear Feed is fed using an included adapter that slides into the top-back of the printer. The Front Feed is fed using a front tray built into the front of the printer. The Rear Feed and Front Feed can only accept 1 sheet at a time. They are designed to handle thicker media (e.g., Velvet Fine Art or Innova Smooth Cotton). The Front Feed in particular is intended for really thick media (up to 1.5 mm thick).You can read here about the minimum and maximum paper sizes handled by the three paper feeds. You can also read here about which borderless sizes are handled by the Auto Sheed Feed and Rear Feed. The Front Feed does not support borderless printing. The 3800 does not have roll paper support.
What are the smallest paper margins I can use?The Auto Sheet Feed and the Rear Feed print with 0.12 in (3 mm) margins all around. The Front Feed prints with 0.12 in (3 mm) left and right margins and 0.79 in (20 mm) top and bottom margins.The 3800 also supports borderless printing, but only for the Auto Sheet Feed and Rear Feed, and only for specific paper sizes. See here for the list of supported sizes.
What is the thickest paper I can feed to the Epson 3800?1.5 mm, according to the Epson manual. Some users have reported success working with even thicker media.
What is the longest print I can make with the Epson 3800?37.4 in (95 cm), but only if you use the Auto Sheet Feed or the Rear Feed. If you are using the Front Feed, the maximum image length is 23.39 in (59.4 cm). See the next question for more details.
What are the smallest and biggest prints I can make with the Epson 3800?The 3800 only takes sheet paper (no roll paper support). The minimum and maximum supported sheet sizes depend on which of the three paper feeds you are using. The following sizes are reported by Version 5.51 of the Epson 3800 driver on Windows XP:
Can other programs such as QImage print longer than 37.4 inches?Not currently. QImage relies on the Epson driver, and it appears to be the driver itself that is imposing the length limit of 37.4 inches.
How can I print longer than 37.4 inches on the Epson 3800?Currently, a third-party RIP is needed.ColorByte Software's ImagePrint RIP driver for the 3800 will print up to 327 inches (25.25 feet, 8.3 meters) long. However, an ImagePrint license for the 3800 is $895.00, so this should probably not be your only reason to invest in ImagePrint! ColorBurst RIP for the 3800 will also print longer than 37.4 inches (I'm not sure of the exact maximum length, however). In addition, Quad Tone RIP can print black-and-white images up to 128 inches (about 325 cm).
Is 8" x 10" really the smallest sheet paper I can feed to the Epson 3800 through the Rear Feed?Not quite. You can feed in smaller sheets, but the trick is to set the page settings in your application to at least 8" x 10".For example, I recently wanted to print a few test patches on a strip of Moab Entrada Fine Art Natural paper that was 3 inches wide and 11 inches long (this originally came from trimming an 11" x 17" sheet down to 11" x 14"). The actual image size in Photoshop was 2 inches wide and 4 inches long. So in Photoshop, I started with the 2" x 4" image and increased the canvas size to 3" x 5" while keeping the image centered and using a white background for the expanded canvas. This had the effect of placing a white border of half an inch all around the image. Next, I expanded the canvas to 8" x 10" while keeping the image in the top-left corner. This effectively made an 8" x 10" image with the actual image content in the top-left region of the page. I had no problem feeding the 3" x 11" strip of paper into the Rear Feed (short end first) and the image came out fine. Since the 8" x 10" image was white everywhere except for the top-left corner, the 3800's print head only attempted to lay down ink on the narrow strip of paper.
Does the Epson 3800 support borderless printing?Yes, but only at specific paper sizes and for certain Media Types. The list of supported paper sizes depends on whether you are using the Auto Sheet Feed or the Rear Feed (see table below). Note that the Epson driver does not support borderless printing from the Front Feed. If you want a borderless print and must use the Front Feed, you will need to print to larger paper and trim afterwards.
What are the available Media Types for the 3800?The Media Types that use Photo Black (PK) ink are:
Remember that the black ink type (PK or MK) is chosen automatically based on your selected Media Type.
Does the Epson 3800 support printing on canvas?Not officially, but many users have printed on canvas successfully. The key is getting the canvas to feed reliably. The following post comes from the Epson Wide Format Yahoo newsgroup:
I am having trouble centering my images when using the UltraSmooth Fine Art Media Type. Any tips?In terms of page layout, the UltraSmooth Fine Art (USFA) Media Type in the Epson driver works differently than the other media types. When USFA is selected for the Media Type, the Paper section of the Epson driver shows a new subsection called Printable Area. Within this subsection, there are two radio buttons (Standard and Maximum) and a checkbox titled Centered. By default, the Standard choice is selected, and the Centered checkbox is not checked. With these default settings, prints will have a smaller printable area than usual, and instead of being centered they will be shifted towards the top (i.e., leading) edge of the sheet. To resolve this issue, click the Maximum option and check the Centered box.Note that other choices of Media Type (e.g., Velvet Fine Art) in the driver do not show this Printable Area section. I'm not sure why USFA behaves differently.
I am having trouble feeding sheets through the Auto Sheet Feed and/or Rear Feed. The 3800 tries to grab the sheets, but the sheet keeps slipping. What's wrong?The top roller that grabs the paper may be coated with paper dust. This can happen if you print often with cotton rag papers. You can clean the rollers in a couple of ways.Here's one method suggested by Tony Bonanno: Carefully swab the rollers with isopropyl alcohol. They should be able to pick up the sheets afterwards. Here's another method proposed by Mathilde, which should help ensure that the alcohol doesn't cause the rubber roller to become too dry: Use a swab that has been moistened with normal tap water and a clean unused toothbrush. Swab the big rubber roll as far as you can reach, and gently brush the now-damp roller. Press the paper feed button and repeat the cleaning action. Thanks, Tony and Mathilde!
I'm using a non-Epson paper. What Paper Thickness setting should I use in the driver?Paper Thickness in the 3800 driver is specified in tenths of a millimeter. For example, a value of 3 means 0.3 mm.Most paper specifications will list the thickness of the paper in either mils (i.e., thousanths of an inch) or mm. If the paper thickness is specified in mm (e.g., 0.27 mm), multiply by 10 and round up to the next integer (e.g., 0.27 x 10 = 2.7 -> 3). If the paper thickness is specified in mils (e.g., 19 mils), multiply by 0.254 and round up to the next higher integer (e.g., 19 x 0.254 = 4.826 -> 5). In general, thinner RC papers use a Paper Thickness of 3, thicker fine art matte papers use a Paper Thickness of 5, and the new F-type papers use a Paper Thickness of 4.
Inks
What kind of ink does the Epson 3800 use?Epson UltraChrome K3 pigment inks. These inks are also used in the Epson Stylus Photo R2400, Epson Stylus Pro 4800, 7800, and 9800 printers. These are not to be confused with the older Epson UltraChrome inks, which are used in the Epson Stylus Photo 2200, Epson Stylus Pro 4000, 7600, and 9600 models.There are nine different inks in the UltraChrome K3 set: Photo Black, Matte Black, Light Black, Light Light Black, Magenta, Light Magenta, Cyan, Light Cyan, and Yellow. The Epson 3800 holds all nine ink cartridges simultaneously.
How much ink does each cartridge hold?The capacity of each cartridge is 80 mL. For comparison, the Epson R2400 has approximately 15 mL cartridges, the Epson 4800 can take either 110 mL or 220 mL cartridges, and the Canon iPF5000 uses 130 mL cartridges.
How much do the inks cost?That depends on where you buy them from. As of October 2007, many dealers in the US are selling individual cartridges for around $45, or about $0.56/mL.Practical ink costs are somewhat hard to measure because they depend on several things, such as printer maintenance tasks (nozzle checks, cleaning, head alignments, etc.), the size of the prints you make, the image content (warm colors vs. cool colors vs. black and white), etc.
How stable are the inks over time?Very stable (supposedly). It's a complicated issue because many factors are involved, including the type of paper, exposure to (UV) light, storage and presentation conditions (behind glass, in a closed box, etc.), and environmental conditions (temperature, humidity, etc.). See Wilhelm Imaging Research for more information on print longevity.Of course, the only way to know for sure is to wait a long time and see what happens to the prints. Can someone please volunteer to report back in 200 years or so? :-)
I read that the Epson 3800's ink cartridges are "pressurized". What does this mean?The pressurized ink cartridge system delivers ink more quickly to the 3800's print head. This allows the 3800 to print faster. The system also ensures positive ink flow even when the printer is used at higher elevations or if the floor is not completely level.Some people speculate that the pressurized system helps to prevent nozzle clogs. However, Epson has made no such claim.
I read that the Epson 3800's inks only last for 6 months. Is this true?Once you install an ink cartridge, Epson recommends that you use it up within 6 months. This is to ensure consistency and color accuracy. However, owners of other Epson UltraChrome K3 printers (e.g., the R2400, 4800, 7800, and 9800) have found through experience that it is fine to continue to use ink cartridges much longer than the recommended 6-month period. Many users have reported using a single ink cartridge for considerably longer than a year with no perceived decrease in print quality or other ill effects.
How should I store extra, unopened ink carts?Preferably in a dark, cool place, away from direct heat sources. Don't refrigerate the ink carts.
How many nozzles does the Epson 3800's print head have?The 3800's print head consists of 8 nozzle columns (one for each color) and each column has 180 nozzles. There are 8 nozzle columns, not 9, because the PK and MK inks share the same set of nozzles.
What is the Epson 3800's minimum ink droplet size?3.5 picoliters.
What is the Epson 3800's maximum print resolution?2880 x 1440 dots per square inch (2880 dpi horizontal, 1440 dpi vertical). These numbers are not to be confused with the native input resolution to the printer driver.
What is the difference between Photo Black ink and Matte Black ink?Photo Black is designed for printing on glossy, luster, or semigloss papers. It is also used for printing on the relatively new fiber-based papers such as Crane Museo Silver Rag and Innova F-Type White Gloss. In contrast, Matte Black is designed for printing on non-reflective matte papers. Using Photo Black on matte papers will result in significantly weaker blacks and prints with lower contrast.
Can I use Photo Black ink on matte papers or use Matte Black ink on glossy/luster/semigloss paper?Technically, yes you can, but I strongly recommend against doing so. Using PK on matte papers will result in significantly weaker blacks, lower contrast, and lower color saturation. Using MK on glossy, luster, or semigloss papers will usually lead to severe scuffing problems (i.e., the ink does not adhere to the paper surface and easily comes off with rubbing) unless the print is carefully sprayed afterwards.This question is commonly asked by users who wish to avoid the cost and time of switching between the PK and MK inks. Keep in mind, however, that (1) the 3800 handles the black ink swap automatically, (2) the 3800 uses relatively little ink to perform this swap, and (3) this swap takes only 2 to 3 minutes. You can minimize ink swaps by batching your MK prints together and similarly batching your PK prints together.
Can the Epson 3800 hold the Photo Black and Matte Black ink cartridges at the same time?Yes. This is different from the Epson 4800, 7800, and 9800 printers.However, the black ink print head on the 3800 is shared between the PK and MK inks, so whenever you switch between using the PK and MK inks, the 3800 will need to flush some ink. See here for details.
How do I switch between using the Photo Black and Matte Black inks?You can swap the two inks directly by using the printer panel. The option to switch the black inks is available from the menus under the Maintenance section. The printer then does the rest; since the 3800 holds both PK and MK inks at the same time, you do not need to take one out to insert the other.You can also let the printer driver software handle the change automatically based on the selected Media Type. The Media Type list is divided into two categories, Photo Black (the top half) and Matte Black (the bottom half). See here for a list of available Media Types. If you select a Media Type from the PK section (e.g., Premium Luster), then the 3800 will print with PK. Similarly, if you select a Media Type from the MK section (e.g., Velvet Fine Art), then the 3800 will print with MK. Note that switching PK and MK inks does take some time (2 to 3 minutes) and wastes some ink (1.5 to 4 mL). See here for more details. For this reason, it is generally better to group your prints by black ink type. For example, if you want to print a set of 10 images on Premium Luster (which uses PK) and a set of 10 images on Velvet Fine Art (which uses MK), then you're better off printing all of the Premium Luster images first followed by all of the Velvet Fine Art images (or the other way around) instead of alternating between the two types of paper. The first way means that you only need to swap the black inks once.
What is the cost of switching from Photo Black to Matte Black (and vice versa), and how much time does it take?Epson claims that switching from PK to MK uses 1.52 mL of ink and that switching from MK to PK uses 4 mL of ink.Here are the results from my own testing. Switching from PK to MK takes 2:04 minutes. According to the printer panel, 2% of MK ink is used in the process. 2% of 80 mL is 1.6 mL of ink, so this is comparable to Epson's claim of 1.52 mL. No other inks are consumed during the switch. As of October 2007, ink costs around $0.56/mL, so the cost of switching from PK to MK is about 85 cents. Switching from MK to PK takes 3:07 minutes. According to the printer panel, 5% of PK ink is used in the process. 5% of 80 mL is 4 mL of ink, so this matches Epson's claim. No other inks are consumed during the switch. As of October 2007, ink costs around $0.56/mL, so the cost of switching from MK to PK is about $2.25.
Does the Epson 3800 use ink from all the cartridges when swapping between the two blacks?No. According to Epson, the 3800's new ink valve design enables it to use only black ink during the ink change operation.I tested this claim by jotting down the ink levels (as reported by the 3800's control panel) before and after the ink swap. There appears to be no change in ink levels for any of the other inks (i.e., only the PK or MK inks is affected). Assuming the printer's ink level report is accurate, these results are consistent with Epson's claim.
Why does changing the ink from Matte Black ink to Photo Black ink take more time and use more ink than changing it from Photo Black to Matte Black?When switching from MK to PK, the 3800 must flush all the MK ink from the 3800's ink damper and print head so that the PK ink will appear consistent and uniform when you print on glossy or semi-gloss media. The printer does not need to flush as much PK ink when changing from PK to MK.
If my workflow never requires a black ink swap (i.e., I use either Photo Black all of the time or Matte Black all of the time) will the black ink that I don't use dry out or clog the nozzles?No. According to Epson, the 3800 monitors ink changes (i.e., the 3800 remembers when you swap PK and MK inks), and if a swap isn't done within 6 months, the 3800 automatically performs a swap to keep the ink flowing properly.
How much ink does the Epson 3800 use?According to early tests, about 2 mL of ink per square foot when printing at 1440 dpi and about 2.2 mL of ink per square foot when printing at 2880 dpi. Printing at 2880 dpi uses roughly 10% more ink than printing at 1440 dpi (not twice as much, as incorrectly suggested elsewhere on the web).The numbers are above are total ink consumption over all cartridges (e.g., 2 mL overall, not 2 mL per cartridge). Keep in mind that these numbers only cover the amount of ink used for the print itself. (This is what the printer and driver report.) Note that ink is also used for other tasks, such as nozzle checks, head alignment, nozzle cleaning, etc. Mark D. Segal has written an article about 3800 ink costs. Mark finds that ink overhead (i.e., ink used for maintenance and other non-printing tasks) is about 20% of ink used for prints. To quote directly from the article, "Hence on average, the cost of ink for a print should be multiplied by about 1.2 to take account of losses."
Which inks does the Epson 3800 use when printing in the Advanced B&W Photo mode?
How many prints can I expect to make before I have to change an ink cartridge?This question is difficult to answer because there are so many variables involved. It depends on the image size, the printer driver settings, color vs. black and white, and the image content (warm colors vs. cool colors, pastel colors vs. deep saturated colors, etc.).I can only offer a rough estimate based on my own (limited) print history, which is reported by the printer driver. I printed a set of 12 letter-sized (8.5" x 11") borderless calendar images on Moab Kokopelli Studio Semigloss paper at 2880 dpi with a Color Density setting of +10. These are nature images with lots of blues, greens, and blacks, and not many warm tones. For each ink cartridge, I averaged the amount of ink consumed over all twelve prints. In practice, there is also some ink used performing maintenance tasks, such as nozzle checks, head cleaning, head alignment, etc. I have no idea what the overhead is, so I'm taking a stab in the dark and guessing 50%. Assuming we start from a full set of 80 mL cartridges, I estimate that I can print about 160 borderless letter-sized prints before Light Light Black runs out, about 500 such prints before Photo Black runs out, and about 1000 prints before Cyan runs out. Since I print infrequently, it'll be a while before I make 1000 prints! Here is the list of ink cartridges, arranged in order from most used to least used for these twelve prints, along with the average consumption per print:
As you can see, the Light Light Black and Light Black are by far the highest consumers (in a ratio of about 6:1 compared to Cyan). Next are Light Magenta and Light Cyan (in a ratio of about 5:1 compared to Cyan). The PK/MK inks and Yellow inks are far behind (in ratios of about 2:1 compared to Cyan). Just to show you how different these numbers can be for a different setup, consider this autumn color image, which I printed at an image size of 12" x 18" on Epson Velvet Fine Art paper. Here is the table showing the amount of ink used, and notice how different it is from the table above.
Notice that Light Light Black is barely used (second from the bottom) whereas Yellow is used much more heavily. In summary, ink usage and the number of prints you can expect per cartridge depends on image content and many other factors.
Will the new Vivid Magenta inks used in the 4880/7800/9800/11880 be compatible with the 3800?No. Supposedly, Epson had to make changes to the print head design of the 4880, 7880, 9880, and 11880 to use the Vivid Magenta ink set. Using the Vivid Magenta ink set with the older print head designs can lead to significant problems (i.e., damage) over time to the print head.
Print Quality
What is the native resolution of the Epson
3800?
Executive summary: If the "Finest Detail" driver setting is unchecked,
the 3800's native resolution is 360 pixels per inch (ppi). If the
"Finest Detail" driver setting is checked, the 3800's native
resolution is 720 ppi. For most photographs, I recommend unchecking
(disabling) the "Finest Detail" driver setting and preparing your
final images at 360 ppi.
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Profile Name | Paper Name / Media Type |
Pro38 ARMP.icm | Epson Archival Matte Paper |
Pro38 EMP.icm | Epson Enhanced Matte Paper |
Pro38 PGPP.icm | Epson Premium Glossy Photo Paper |
Pro38 PLPP.icm | Epson Premium Luster Photo Paper |
Pro38 PPSmC.icm | Epson Proofing Semimatte Paper |
Pro38 PQIJP_MK.icm | Epson Photo Quality Inkjet Paper |
Pro38 PSPP.icm | Epson Premium Semigloss Photo Paper |
Pro38 SWMP.icm | Epson Singleweight Matte Paper |
Pro38 SWMP_LD.icm | Epson Singleweight Matte Paper - Line Drawing |
Pro38 USFAP.icm | Epson UltraSmooth Fine Art Paper |
Pro38 VFAP.icm | Epson Velvet Fine Art Paper |
Pro38 WCRW.icm | Epson Watercolor Radiant White Paper |
If you are new to creating custom profiles, I suggest taking a look at Bill Atkinson's color downloads page. Bill has made his excellent profiling targets available for free. Download the Targets FAQ and read through it carefully -- it has lots of good advice.
I personally use the RGB 4096 Eye-One target (printed on three 11" x 17" sheets) for PK papers and the RGB 1728 Eye-One target (printed on one 13" x 19" sheet) for MK papers.
If you are printing in ABW mode, and you have a spectrophotometer like an Eye-One Pro, you can use QuadToneRIP to build a grayscale ICC profile by printing a target in ABW mode and then measuring it. You can use this profile for both soft proofing as well as printing. Giorgio Trucco describes the steps here in more detail.
A more flexible way to build black and white profiles for the ABW driver is to measure a grayscale stepwedge target and then use the measurements to build output curves in Photoshop (instead of using an ICC profile). This method also allows you to soft proof the image (including color toning). One advantage of this approach is that it's easy to make small tweaks to the curves to fine-tune the results (e.g., open up or compress shadow detail). It's like having a simplified profile editor right in Photoshop.
I've written a custom software program to generate Photoshop curves automatically from a set of LAB measurements and am considering releasing it to the public.
The following more detailed explanation is summarized and paraphrased from a thread on the Epson Wide Format Yahoo newsgroup, where the original poster spoke on the phone with an Epson engineer in the wide format printer product group.
According to the engineer, assuming a properly functioning printer, there is no difference in the parked position of the print head, whether the printer is on and the head is parked or if the printer is shut off. The engineer recommends that if printers are used very frequently (hourly to daily at the longest) then it is fine to let the printer stay on because there isn't enough time between prints to let the print head dry out.
To avoid problems with print quality, you want to avoid the situation where ink dries in the print head. In other words, dried ink is the enemy: it can cause clogs, and because it doesn't seal nozzles as well as liquid ink does, dry ink can contribute to air bubbles. If the printer is not used at least daily, then it should be shut off between print runs. The reason is that when the printer is turned back on, it goes through a special type of head cleaning (using a supposedly "minimal" amount of ink) to clear off the dried particles, get rid of air bubbles, and get the liquid ink going again.
The frequency of this special cleaning mode is controlled by the printer itself. It will be done occasionally even if the printer is left on; however, it is not done frequently enough if the printer is simply left idling while powered on and not being used. Hence, the Epson engineer's recommendation is to turn the printer off when the time between two successive print runs is longer than a day.
If you are having trouble with the former issue, make sure that (1) you have placed the sheet flush against the right edge of the Rear Feed guide, (2) you are inserting the paper straight (instead of at an angle), and (3) that you are pushing down firmly and consistently across the top edge of the paper as you insert it. The last point is particularly important. You must apply constant downward pressure, even after you feel the paper sheet encountering resistance inside the printer. It takes the 3800 about 1 or 2 seconds before it takes over and attempts to pull the sheet in. Once the 3800 picks up the sheet, you can let go -- but not before then!
If you are having trouble with the latter issue, it's possible that the leading edge of the sheet isn't straight. This mistake happens sometimes when sheets are cut during the manufacturing process; it can also occur if you cut the sheets yourself (e.g., using a Rotatrim). To see whether this is the case, try multiple paper types and see if the problem is isolated to a single paper. If the problem persists, try turning off the Paper Size Check option from the printer panel.
I have not found it necessary to use the printer panel to set the paper configuration.
If you haven't used your 3800 for more than two weeks, Epson recommends shaking the ink cartridges gently. That's right -- remove each ink cartridge and shake it gently four or five times and put it back in. I'm guessing that this somehow redistributes the ink in a way that leads to better print quality.
Why does it happen? One possibility is that you are printing on thick paper (such as fine art matte media) and the Platen Gap isn't wide enough. The Platen Gap is a printer setting (accessible via the printer driver or from the printer panel itself) that determines the distance between the print head and the paper during printing. The wider a setting you use, the greater the distance, and the less likely a head strike will occur. However, if you are printing on thin media and set the Platen Gap too wide, then prints may look faint.
Even when using an appropriate Platen Gap settings, head strikes can occasionally occur. One reason for this is that the Epson 3800 does not have a vaccuum system to keep the paper flat as it is fed during printing. Normally the paper is sandwiched between two sets of rollers, so this isn't an issue. The problem typically occurs near the end of the print, especially if you are printing close to the edge (e.g., less than an inch for the bottom margin) When the edge of the paper leaves the first set of rollers, it can lift up a bit and get in the path of the print head. Giorgio Trucco gives the details here.
One solution to the problem is to override the Platen Gap setting and change it from Auto to Wide (or Wider). This does not appear to affect print quality in most cases.
Some users have reported that even adjusting the Platen Gap doesn't solve the problem: they either continue to get head strikes or they see ink smearing in other parts of the prints. The only solution in this case seems to be to call Epson support and ask for a replacement printer.
One trick I've found that helps to avoid head strikes is to curl the paper slightly before feeding it to the printer. The idea is to curl the paper "downwards" (i.e., bend the edges of the paper towards the paper tray) so that the bottom edge of the print is less likely to pop up as it leaves the first set of rollers. Combining this technique with setting the Platen Gap to Wide has worked so far for me.
Here is another trick contributed by Robert Koopmans. If you are printing on sheets cut from roll paper, the paper has a tendency to curl. This can exacerbate the head strike issue. One trick is to cut your sheet so that it's two inches longer than what you actually need. The extra two inches prevent the end of the paper from popping up and causing a head strike while the printer is finishing up the print. For example, let's say you want to print a 16" x 24" image that is centered on 17" x 25" paper cut from a 17" roll. Instead of cutting a 17" x 25" sheet, cut a 17" x 27" sheet. Tell the driver that you're using a 17" x 25" sheet (using the User Defined paper size setting). When you print the image, the printer will stop laying down ink 24.5 inches from the front of the sheet, and the remaining 2.5 inches of paper will prevent a head strike from occurring because they still lie under the rollers. Once the print comes out, trim off the last (blank) 2 inches, and you're done! (Or, if you're planning to mat and frame the print, it's probably not even necessary to trim off the last 2 inches, since they'll be concealed by the mat anyways.)
Narrow | 0.9 mm |
Standard | 1.2 mm |
Wide | 1.5 mm |
Wider | 2.1 mm |
Widest | 3.5 mm |
The problem is that the pizza wheels dig into the printing side of the paper surface as the sheet emerges from the printer. This leaves little marks running up and down the surface of the print, perpendicular to the direction of the print head movement. Papers with softer surfaces (e.g., the Innova FibaPrint papers) are more susceptible to this problem.
Are the marks really noticeable in practice? That depends. First of all, I've only ever seen the marks on PK papers, not MK papers. So I don't worry about it at all when printing on MK papers (which is most of the time). For PK papers, the marks are only visible when (1) the light is fairly strong and directional, and (2) the viewer is examining the print at a downward angle. For example, if a PK print was mounted and hung on a gallery wall, the only way to see the marks would be to stand on a chair or ladder and look down at the print from above -- not a likely scenario. Prints that are designed to be viewed while held in the hand (e.g., boxed porfolio prints) are a different matter. The marks are more likely to show up in this case.
There is a way to avoid pizza wheel marks on PK papers entirely. The idea is to use the Front Feed, which bypasses the pizza wheel ejection mechanism entirely. However, simply using the Front Feed doesn't work perfectly, because the Front Feed is designed to be used with very thick papers (1 mm to 1.5 mm). If you use the Front Feed with regular papers, the print head winds up too far away from the paper surface, leading to dot misregistration and ghosting (i.e., a fuzzy print). The trick to getting around this problem is to use a thick backing sheet that is the same size as the sheet of paper (2-ply mat board works perfectly). For example, when printing on 11" x 17" paper, place the sheet on a 2-ply mat board that is cut to exactly 11" x 17". It is not necessary to tape the sheet to the board. Align the two carefully, insert the combination into the Front Feed, and print normally. Voila -- perfect prints, no marks.
Note that you cannot make borderless when using the Front Feed.
Example #1. When my 3800 first arrived, it had firmware number o02468-1.00 800E. This means the firmware is for the Epson 3800 (o0) and was released August 24, 2006.
Example #2. I then went to the Epson (USA) Support site to check for the latest firmware version. I found that the site listed firmware number o02269-1.00 800E. Decoding the initial sequence of letters and numbers, this Epson 3800 firmware was released September 22, 2006.
This is slightly misleading since o02269 appears to be a smaller or lower number than o02468, yet o02269 is actually the newer version.
You can update your 3800's firmware using the LFP Remote Panel. The firmware update utility software will tell you whether the firmware you plan to install is newer, older, or the same as your current firmware.
You can also determine your 3800's current firmware number by using the LFP Remote Panel, or by using the panel on the front of the 3800 itself.
James Kay (a 3800 user) has spent a lot of time working on this problem and has finally found a workaround. Essentially, the workaround consists of installing the Epson 2200 driver and the latest version of the Epson 2200 Status Monitor. Sounds odd, but it works! This workaround seems to work fine in Windows XP.
The following specific information is paraphrased from James's original posts online:
OK, I have spent a lot of time trying to resolve this issue. I have
tried Network traces, stack analysis, port scanning and every other
thing I could think of.
I was testing out my old Epson 2200 printer, and realized I uninstalled the driver while I was troubleshooting the 3800 Status Monitor. I reinstalled the 2200 driver. I noticed the Status Monitor for the 2200 was not working. I downloaded the latest 2200 Status Monitor from the Epson US site and then saw the ink level on my 2200. I also noticed that the Status monitor was also Version 3. I decided to try the 3800 status monitor again. VOILA! Now my 3800 Status monitor is working over Ethernet only! All I did was install the 2200 driver and Status Monitor. Go figure! I would be curious to know if this works for anyone else...
OK, I got the Status Monitor working for 3 of my 4 machines. I have not attempted to try the 4th one yet (Vista), but so far so good. In all three cases, all I did was install the Epson 2200 driver and 2200 Status Monitor. I selected the port for my 3800 using "Manual" when installing the driver, since the printer is not attached to my other machines. Here are the files I used for the update:
2200 Driver: epson12230.exe I downloaded these from the Epson US site. I also noticed that I must have NetBIOS enabled on my network card. You can check this at Start/Setting/Network Connections. Right click your active NIC and select properties. Then select "Internet Protocol TCP/IP" and select "Properties". Select "Advanced" then the "WINS" tab. Verify "NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is "Enabled". "Default" should work too. You should be able to "ping" your printer by the name on page 2 of the Network Status sheet printed from the printer panel. I hope this helps... |
Thanks James. This is a big help to many 3800 users!
First, make sure that your system software is set up in the same measurement units as you are using in Photoshop. Go to System Preferences/International/Formats/Measurement Units. If you are setting up your custom paper size in inches make sure that the system is using U.S. measurements; if in centimeters then make sure it is set up in metric units.
In Photoshop's Print With Preview dialog box, choose Page Setup and then Manage Custom Sizes. Create a New Custom size of 17x21 (or whatever your desired custom size is). The critical thing here is that you use the same measurement units as your system software is using You then have an option for margin sizes; I just checked the box for the standard 3800 printer margins. Save it.
Now when you go to print preview with your 16x20 image you should see the image centered with 1/2 margins all around. It should print fine now.
First, if you just set up a new printer, check that you've removed all pieces of blue packing tape (and packing foam) from inside the printer. There are roughly 50 pieces of tape in all, and some of them are tucked away and hard to see inside. Use a flashlight to look inside.
Second, while making a print, lift up the top panel of the printer (it lies just in front of the Auto Sheet Feed) and make sure that the print head isn't crashing into the side of the printer as it moves from side to side. If it seems to be hitting the side of the printer (and this seems to be the cause of a banging or crashing sound), stop printing and call Epson Support. Your printer probably needs to be serviced or replaced.
Next, check to make sure that your application (e.g., Photoshop) settings and printer driver settings haven't changed. Refer to my suggested printing workflow guide if necessary. In particular, make sure that (1) you are selecting the correct printer profile, and (2) you are not double-profiling (i.e., performing two color conversions).
If you just changed an ink cartridge, a possible (but less common) cause of a color cast is a defective ink cart.